HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons shares his thoughts on the Bryan Colangelo situation (3:15) before talking NBA Finals narratives and subplots, including historic Finals runs, the real difference between LeBron and Michael Jordan, and Kevin Durant versus LeBron James, Part 2 (14:25). Then Bill sits down with Durant's business manager, Rich Kleiman, to talk about his music industry origins, his run with Roc Nation, meeting Durant, and how players are more equipped today to branch out in the business world (32:10). Colangelo Article Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices