HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Joe House to recap game 4 of the NBA Finals, Kawhi’s historic playoff run, game 5 predictions, NBA Summer moves, and more (2:05). Then Bill sits down with boxing heavyweight champion Andy Ruiz Jr. to talk about his exhilarating fight with Anthony Joshua, his fight prep, the rematch, and more (1:02:40). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices