The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss the Jazz trading Donovan Mitchell to the Cavaliers, and what this means for the Knicks (1:51). Then Bill is joined by Cousin Sal to talk NFL win totals for the AFC (50:08)! Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Ryen Russillo and Cousin Sal Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices