The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Chuck Klosterman to discuss a myriad of topics, including the current state of college sports (3:45), lessons learned (or not) from the 2024 election (30:50), modern NBA superstardom, how the public's relationship with celebrity has evolved, the next generation of documentaries, thoughts from the Tyson-Paul fight (59:56), HBO's ‘The Sopranos,’ and more (2:08:56). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Chuck Klosterman Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices