Rick Perry was the 47th governor of Texas and the 14th secretary of Energy in the first administration of President Donald Trump. https://x.com/GovernorPerry W. Bryan Hubbard was the 1st Chairman of the Kentucky Opioid Commission and currently leads the REID Foundation’s American Ibogaine Initiative. https://x.com/w_bryan_hubbard https://www.reid.foundation/texas-ibogaine-initiative https://www.reveilleadvisors.com/ibogaine/ This episode is brought to you by AG1.Take ownership of your health with AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free Travel Packs with your first subscription. Go to http://drinkag1.com/joerogan Go to https://www.expressvpn.com/ROGAN and find out how you can get 4 months of ExpressVPN free! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices