HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Kevin Clark to discuss the potential NFL QB upheaval for the 2020 season (2:04). Then Bill talks with author and podcast host Stephen Dubner about cowriting 'Freakonomics,' the evolution of sportswriting, the future of the NFL, getting ready for legal sports gambling, the science of napping, athletes after sports, vaping, the coronavirus, and much more (30:54). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices