In Part 2 of a two-part podcast, The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss whether the Mavs found something in Game 4 of the Finals, or if the Celtics just sucked. Plus how nervous is Bill heading into Game 5? Then, they chat about why the Lakers haven’t hired a coach yet, and play a game of "What Would You Do?" if they were running the Sixers and Bulls. Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Ryen Russillo Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices