Dr. Jordan B. Peterson speaks with best-selling author, commentator, rapper, and co-founder of The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro. They discuss the postmodern twisting of religious conceptions, the proclivity for hedonism to propagate at the edges of shared ideals, the danger of a society which has no shared ideals, the necessity of deprivation, and the case for a transcendent narrative in regards to long-term societal benefits.   Ben Shapiro is the co-founder and Editor Emeritus of The Daily Wire and host of “The Ben Shapiro Show,” the largest conservative podcast in the nation. In addition, he also hosts “Debunked,” “The Search,” and “The Sunday Special.”     - Links -   2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events     Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/     For Ben Shapiro:   On X https://twitter.com/benshapiro?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor   On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnQC_G5Xsjhp9fEJKuIcrSw  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices